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		<title>By: Xueryna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xueryna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slm.

Yoga is permitted for Muslim its just that we cannot use the &quot;mantera&quot; only.

short hair is permissible for muslims women but we cannot make it look like a guy&#039;s hair. if we do cut it short so that it look boyish haircut,then it is prohibited.

why so serious about it?Islam is not that complicated.you guys make it so complex. i did not see any girl nor i heard there are people who were arrested because of this.

chill la.anyway, if you are a Muslim, act, think and speak like a MUslim.</description>
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<p>Yoga is permitted for Muslim its just that we cannot use the &#8220;mantera&#8221; only.</p>
<p>short hair is permissible for muslims women but we cannot make it look like a guy&#8217;s hair. if we do cut it short so that it look boyish haircut,then it is prohibited.</p>
<p>why so serious about it?Islam is not that complicated.you guys make it so complex. i did not see any girl nor i heard there are people who were arrested because of this.</p>
<p>chill la.anyway, if you are a Muslim, act, think and speak like a MUslim.</p>
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		<title>By: anakpakross</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the fatwa council is sick then I say the hindu sangam is desperately raving mad. What is it with you people that give you the right to comment on other peoples religion? why do other religion like to be an aggressor of sort this days? 

I once strongly disagree with the assimilation process and pride malaysia for taking the multi racial approach in creating bangsa malaysia.  I am begining to doubt that and start to see the reason  for taking a more hard handed approach, like those done in the rest of the asean countries. Malaysia especially the malays has been too accomodating and that has been seen to be weak. Now these other races are trying to tell us how to manage our religion.

So what if bumiputra is a new word used consisting of sanskrit. What logic do you use that that gives you the right what is acceptable and what is not in islam. what idiotic sad logic is that. If you want to persist using warp logic, then i can say you should named all your children in malay names because you guys are born in malaysia. 

stop pretending that you care about malaysian muslims women and their devine human rights. If you cannot even respect other religions, what do you know about &#039;devine&#039; rights in other religion. 

At last, what you are trying to say is that all these is due to BN government. What sick opposition trooper are you anyway.  Typical of evens since March 2008, all those that crawls out of the woodworks seems to be preaching of &#039;race&#039; equalities and yet couldn&#039;t care less if the racial sentiments used are causing more rift and damage to the society. So keep your truth to yourself, and don&#039;t tell muslims how to take care of themselves. stop trying to be an angle while your devlish intentions are obvious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the fatwa council is sick then I say the hindu sangam is desperately raving mad. What is it with you people that give you the right to comment on other peoples religion? why do other religion like to be an aggressor of sort this days? </p>
<p>I once strongly disagree with the assimilation process and pride malaysia for taking the multi racial approach in creating bangsa malaysia.  I am begining to doubt that and start to see the reason  for taking a more hard handed approach, like those done in the rest of the asean countries. Malaysia especially the malays has been too accomodating and that has been seen to be weak. Now these other races are trying to tell us how to manage our religion.</p>
<p>So what if bumiputra is a new word used consisting of sanskrit. What logic do you use that that gives you the right what is acceptable and what is not in islam. what idiotic sad logic is that. If you want to persist using warp logic, then i can say you should named all your children in malay names because you guys are born in malaysia. </p>
<p>stop pretending that you care about malaysian muslims women and their devine human rights. If you cannot even respect other religions, what do you know about &#8216;devine&#8217; rights in other religion. </p>
<p>At last, what you are trying to say is that all these is due to BN government. What sick opposition trooper are you anyway.  Typical of evens since March 2008, all those that crawls out of the woodworks seems to be preaching of &#8216;race&#8217; equalities and yet couldn&#8217;t care less if the racial sentiments used are causing more rift and damage to the society. So keep your truth to yourself, and don&#8217;t tell muslims how to take care of themselves. stop trying to be an angle while your devlish intentions are obvious!</p>
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		<title>By: NOT PC</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about &quot;BUMIPUTRA&quot;?

Sick Fatwa Council should immediately issue a fatwa banning the use of the word &quot;BUMIPUTRA&quot; as it is a HINDU Sanskrit word, and used to refer to Malays MUSLIMS on top of that! What blasphemy! The word &quot;BUMIPUTRA&quot; is a combination of the Hindu Sanskit words &quot;bumi&quot; and &quot;putra&quot; meaning &quot;Earth&quot; and &quot;princes&quot;, which in combination means &quot;princes of the Earth&quot;. And Malays are so proud of the title! 

Malaysian Muslim women have been the targets of so many fatwas to curtail their divine human rights. Fight back my dear Muslim sisters. You can do that by massively voting for Pakatan Rakyat the next election. Teach BN a lesson or forever suffer as second-class citizens. It&#039;s the truth.</description>
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<p>Sick Fatwa Council should immediately issue a fatwa banning the use of the word &#8220;BUMIPUTRA&#8221; as it is a HINDU Sanskrit word, and used to refer to Malays MUSLIMS on top of that! What blasphemy! The word &#8220;BUMIPUTRA&#8221; is a combination of the Hindu Sanskit words &#8220;bumi&#8221; and &#8220;putra&#8221; meaning &#8220;Earth&#8221; and &#8220;princes&#8221;, which in combination means &#8220;princes of the Earth&#8221;. And Malays are so proud of the title! </p>
<p>Malaysian Muslim women have been the targets of so many fatwas to curtail their divine human rights. Fight back my dear Muslim sisters. You can do that by massively voting for Pakatan Rakyat the next election. Teach BN a lesson or forever suffer as second-class citizens. It&#8217;s the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustyhawk :: Broken Mirror &#187; Of Fatwas and Sanctimonious Fanatical Pricks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustyhawk :: Broken Mirror &#187; Of Fatwas and Sanctimonious Fanatical Pricks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So long as muslim women do not find it offensive and acceptable, nothing much to comment from a non muslim.</description>
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		<title>By: Gadfly</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do people who thirst for physical mutilation or crippling as punishment for crimes are themselves at the same time psychical cripples? And make sadism into a religion? Sadism has nothing to do with great religion. However, a sadist tends to play &#039;god&#039;, an impotent person who fantasises that he is as omnipotent as &#039;god&#039; by subjecting the victim to absolute control.

Some cultures have outgrown sadism and some still relish it. It is difficult to explain why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do people who thirst for physical mutilation or crippling as punishment for crimes are themselves at the same time psychical cripples? And make sadism into a religion? Sadism has nothing to do with great religion. However, a sadist tends to play &#8216;god&#8217;, an impotent person who fantasises that he is as omnipotent as &#8216;god&#8217; by subjecting the victim to absolute control.</p>
<p>Some cultures have outgrown sadism and some still relish it. It is difficult to explain why.</p>
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		<title>By: azura</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>about the tomboy ban in Malaysia: I won&#039;t deny that quran said something about it&#039;s against nature when women preferring to be man and have sex with their same sex.True. Any religion will say same sex is haram - even bible also will say haram about &#039;people of Sodom &amp; Gomorrah&#039; &amp; homosexuality - as much as what Allah mentioned what happened to &#039;people of Prophet Luth&#039;. but one thing that disturb me is... is the fatwa council of Malaysia is one sided against women as they always do just like Malaysia&#039;s Syariah court always siding to men until ex-husbands always get away with paying alimonies to their ex-wives after divorce? it&#039;s true.... let me explain why :
1. the Malaysian fatwa council only rules out ban against lesbian and tomboys. They never say any ban on male pondan,mak nyah, transexual(and until we have transexual model posing for Habib Jewel ads - like we dont have enough girls).The malaysian fatwa council never ban on gay guys - so we still have gay men flocking to La Queen, and packed at The Market Place -and no Jabatan Agama raid the place pun? because... some male lawyers in the fatwa council,UIAM are also bisexual...hahhaha... and... ya... we have males like Anuar Ibrahim who talks about god, family but also...bisexual?ask any gay guys -it&#039;s true.
2. why more females become lesbos and tomboys?... the fatwa council always sided to men in syariah proceedings on divorce cases ... which resulting to divorced women frusterated,became men hater but yet they need people to love, to protect and take care of them..so they turn to well-off tomboys as substitutes. so you can&#039;t simply blame penniless divorced women who ran away with another women or rich and handsome tomboys.
- i hardly hear muslim councils in Great Britain or Australia doing funny things and rulings like the Malaysians.

about yoga : those who want to ban yoga should put the words nicely... If they say &quot;ban the types of yoga that performs hindu chantings &amp; recitals during the yoga sessions... for muslims to go&quot; - that I would agree. because to chat other things in prayers in language you don&#039;t understand - its dangerous.I wouldn&#039;t chat Latin words if i don&#039;t undertstand them - coz what if i say out words to call upon the satan worshipping? but if the fatwa council wants to ban yoga completely for all muslims in Malaysia, including the yoga classes in True Fitness,Fitness First,Celebrity Fitness - and other gyms... hahahahahahaha ... gosh! I think im gonna have my stomach exploded out of laughing.... so idiot,man...
and then again, they listen to a UKM professor who come out with the so called genius words...hoi,where did he get his Phd.? so narrow minded? I think one of these days I&#039;ll drop by his office and give him my True Fitness one week membership trials to try out the yoga classes at the gym. my &#039;na waitu&#039;, my &#039;niat&#039;, my goals to go for my yoga class is to exercise, to loose weight, to be healthy. my another &#039;yoga&#039; to meditate is at the surau - the solat, five times a day.
So, what yoga, what do you want to do and what do you want to be in life... depends on your &#039;niat&#039; - how you set your heart. If it&#039;s for good reasons ... life &amp; hereafter will turn out good (i shall say that - coz i can afford to pay for the gym fees and happy living). If its wrong, it is still wrong.If it&#039;s right and have truth in it... you can hide them. Let&#039;s the god judge a person, not you. but when a man try to do a god&#039;s job and make new laws... things get funny.

* and I still don&#039;t understand why Malaysian fatwas never push real religious laws like cutting hands for thieves/snatch thieves... like in Saudi Arabia (seriously, you hardly heard people stealing in Mecca). and seriously, in Matthews - it did mentioned the law &quot;if your hands to bad things - cut them off&quot;..

- I support peace among human race</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>about the tomboy ban in Malaysia: I won&#8217;t deny that quran said something about it&#8217;s against nature when women preferring to be man and have sex with their same sex.True. Any religion will say same sex is haram &#8211; even bible also will say haram about &#8216;people of Sodom &amp; Gomorrah&#8217; &amp; homosexuality &#8211; as much as what Allah mentioned what happened to &#8216;people of Prophet Luth&#8217;. but one thing that disturb me is&#8230; is the fatwa council of Malaysia is one sided against women as they always do just like Malaysia&#8217;s Syariah court always siding to men until ex-husbands always get away with paying alimonies to their ex-wives after divorce? it&#8217;s true&#8230;. let me explain why :<br />
1. the Malaysian fatwa council only rules out ban against lesbian and tomboys. They never say any ban on male pondan,mak nyah, transexual(and until we have transexual model posing for Habib Jewel ads &#8211; like we dont have enough girls).The malaysian fatwa council never ban on gay guys &#8211; so we still have gay men flocking to La Queen, and packed at The Market Place -and no Jabatan Agama raid the place pun? because&#8230; some male lawyers in the fatwa council,UIAM are also bisexual&#8230;hahhaha&#8230; and&#8230; ya&#8230; we have males like Anuar Ibrahim who talks about god, family but also&#8230;bisexual?ask any gay guys -it&#8217;s true.<br />
2. why more females become lesbos and tomboys?&#8230; the fatwa council always sided to men in syariah proceedings on divorce cases &#8230; which resulting to divorced women frusterated,became men hater but yet they need people to love, to protect and take care of them..so they turn to well-off tomboys as substitutes. so you can&#8217;t simply blame penniless divorced women who ran away with another women or rich and handsome tomboys.<br />
- i hardly hear muslim councils in Great Britain or Australia doing funny things and rulings like the Malaysians.</p>
<p>about yoga : those who want to ban yoga should put the words nicely&#8230; If they say &#8220;ban the types of yoga that performs hindu chantings &amp; recitals during the yoga sessions&#8230; for muslims to go&#8221; &#8211; that I would agree. because to chat other things in prayers in language you don&#8217;t understand &#8211; its dangerous.I wouldn&#8217;t chat Latin words if i don&#8217;t undertstand them &#8211; coz what if i say out words to call upon the satan worshipping? but if the fatwa council wants to ban yoga completely for all muslims in Malaysia, including the yoga classes in True Fitness,Fitness First,Celebrity Fitness &#8211; and other gyms&#8230; hahahahahahaha &#8230; gosh! I think im gonna have my stomach exploded out of laughing&#8230;. so idiot,man&#8230;<br />
and then again, they listen to a UKM professor who come out with the so called genius words&#8230;hoi,where did he get his Phd.? so narrow minded? I think one of these days I&#8217;ll drop by his office and give him my True Fitness one week membership trials to try out the yoga classes at the gym. my &#8216;na waitu&#8217;, my &#8216;niat&#8217;, my goals to go for my yoga class is to exercise, to loose weight, to be healthy. my another &#8216;yoga&#8217; to meditate is at the surau &#8211; the solat, five times a day.<br />
So, what yoga, what do you want to do and what do you want to be in life&#8230; depends on your &#8216;niat&#8217; &#8211; how you set your heart. If it&#8217;s for good reasons &#8230; life &amp; hereafter will turn out good (i shall say that &#8211; coz i can afford to pay for the gym fees and happy living). If its wrong, it is still wrong.If it&#8217;s right and have truth in it&#8230; you can hide them. Let&#8217;s the god judge a person, not you. but when a man try to do a god&#8217;s job and make new laws&#8230; things get funny.</p>
<p>* and I still don&#8217;t understand why Malaysian fatwas never push real religious laws like cutting hands for thieves/snatch thieves&#8230; like in Saudi Arabia (seriously, you hardly heard people stealing in Mecca). and seriously, in Matthews &#8211; it did mentioned the law &#8220;if your hands to bad things &#8211; cut them off&#8221;..</p>
<p>- I support peace among human race</p>
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		<title>By: Gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.unu.edu/unupress/unupbooks/uu01se/uu01se00.htm

There are thousands of Malaysians studying science and engineering either locally or overseas. However, Malaysia is still essentially a consumer or user of science and engineering. We are still a follower after the footsteps of western nations. Worse yet, the Malaysian mind is to a large measure being colonised in these areas. The debate of such subjects are seriously lacking.

Looking back at the great civilisations we could identified with, be it the Chinese, Indus or Islamic, all have contributed towards the western sciences. But, they all have lagged behind now. More than ten years ago, I had grappled with the question of the chinese thoughts. Joseph Needham asked a grand question - why did the sciences arise in Europe when China was once far ahead them? He spent 30 over years to answer this question. Besides the question of a &#039;mercantile class&#039; to support the sciences, I think the authouritarian straits embedded in Confucianism did play a major role.( Please refer the above link for Joseph Needham). The new generation of Malaysians pursuing the sciences have to ask very different questions now - How relevant is the western model of progress to our Malaysian context?</description>
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<p>There are thousands of Malaysians studying science and engineering either locally or overseas. However, Malaysia is still essentially a consumer or user of science and engineering. We are still a follower after the footsteps of western nations. Worse yet, the Malaysian mind is to a large measure being colonised in these areas. The debate of such subjects are seriously lacking.</p>
<p>Looking back at the great civilisations we could identified with, be it the Chinese, Indus or Islamic, all have contributed towards the western sciences. But, they all have lagged behind now. More than ten years ago, I had grappled with the question of the chinese thoughts. Joseph Needham asked a grand question &#8211; why did the sciences arise in Europe when China was once far ahead them? He spent 30 over years to answer this question. Besides the question of a &#8216;mercantile class&#8217; to support the sciences, I think the authouritarian straits embedded in Confucianism did play a major role.( Please refer the above link for Joseph Needham). The new generation of Malaysians pursuing the sciences have to ask very different questions now &#8211; How relevant is the western model of progress to our Malaysian context?</p>
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		<title>By: Gadfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gadfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I observe that the debates about yoga is either seen as an exercise or something involved with organised religion. But, the discussion has missed out an important feature of yoga.

Briefly, this is what Daniel Goleman wrote in his book, the Meditative Mind, about Patanlaji&#039;s yoga: The mind is filled with thought waves that create duality,the gulf, the separation between mechanisms of awareness and their objects. &quot;By calming his thought waves, by stilling his mind, the yogi will find union.These thought waves are the source of strong emotions and blind habits that bind man to a false self.... When the thought waves are subdued, the yogi&#039;s ego recedes.Finally, as a liberated man, he is able to don his ego or discard it like a suit of clothes.&quot;

So far so good. You do not need to have any religious beliefs or faith to calm the mind and to tame the ego. But why is there the battle of(or for) Gods as Karen Armstrong said?

I think the problem is that when the mind is so still, there is no or hardly any perceptual distortion of what the person &#039;sees&#039; as the ultimate reality or the real.At that moment, he/she does not need any doctrines, any temples, any priests or ulamahs or monks. He is liberated spiritually. He becomes &#039;dangerous&#039; as the religious authourities cannot control or regulate him anymore. If we breed a goose inside a bottle, when the goose has grown too big, what do you do? Either, you kill the goose or you break the bottle. This is what normally people do. When dealing with thought waves, there are thousand and one ways to do it. It is poverty of imagination and the fear of experimentation that starves the goose to death. 

There is no one medicine for all human ills. If yoga does not fit you, discard it. But, I think it is useful to keep in mind that if we close our mind too early before knowing it fully, we may have throw away the sand and the pearl at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I observe that the debates about yoga is either seen as an exercise or something involved with organised religion. But, the discussion has missed out an important feature of yoga.</p>
<p>Briefly, this is what Daniel Goleman wrote in his book, the Meditative Mind, about Patanlaji&#8217;s yoga: The mind is filled with thought waves that create duality,the gulf, the separation between mechanisms of awareness and their objects. &#8220;By calming his thought waves, by stilling his mind, the yogi will find union.These thought waves are the source of strong emotions and blind habits that bind man to a false self&#8230;. When the thought waves are subdued, the yogi&#8217;s ego recedes.Finally, as a liberated man, he is able to don his ego or discard it like a suit of clothes.&#8221;</p>
<p>So far so good. You do not need to have any religious beliefs or faith to calm the mind and to tame the ego. But why is there the battle of(or for) Gods as Karen Armstrong said?</p>
<p>I think the problem is that when the mind is so still, there is no or hardly any perceptual distortion of what the person &#8217;sees&#8217; as the ultimate reality or the real.At that moment, he/she does not need any doctrines, any temples, any priests or ulamahs or monks. He is liberated spiritually. He becomes &#8216;dangerous&#8217; as the religious authourities cannot control or regulate him anymore. If we breed a goose inside a bottle, when the goose has grown too big, what do you do? Either, you kill the goose or you break the bottle. This is what normally people do. When dealing with thought waves, there are thousand and one ways to do it. It is poverty of imagination and the fear of experimentation that starves the goose to death. </p>
<p>There is no one medicine for all human ills. If yoga does not fit you, discard it. But, I think it is useful to keep in mind that if we close our mind too early before knowing it fully, we may have throw away the sand and the pearl at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: eqwan</title>
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		<dc:creator>eqwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also proud with the Islamic findings in mathematics, astrology, medicine, physics.

No doubt about it.

Yeah, being the first to discover doesn&#039;t mean that much today.

To peace,

about the fatwas you suggested, we don&#039;t need any as they are already clear. Muslims just don&#039;t take the time to look for it or just don&#039;t want to.

Hey, not all followers in christian or hindu or bhudda follow their teachings right?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also proud with the Islamic findings in mathematics, astrology, medicine, physics.</p>
<p>No doubt about it.</p>
<p>Yeah, being the first to discover doesn&#8217;t mean that much today.</p>
<p>To peace,</p>
<p>about the fatwas you suggested, we don&#8217;t need any as they are already clear. Muslims just don&#8217;t take the time to look for it or just don&#8217;t want to.</p>
<p>Hey, not all followers in christian or hindu or bhudda follow their teachings right?</p>
<p>Same goes.</p>
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